Does everyone have RCS by now?

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Does everyone have RCS by now?

I've installed Android Messages and I've enabled Enhanced Messages (RCS) as directed on my unlocked/BYOD devices but when I try to send a message, even to myself, it continues to show "SMS" under the send arrow, which as I understand it, means that it's not being sent by RCS.

 

Shouldn't everyone have RCS ability at this point given how long ago Fido started rolling this out?

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Hey @BrianJM

 

In order to be able to use RCS, the following conditions must be met:

 

- Both parties need to have RCS enabled on their device

- Both parties need to be with the same service provider

 

If one of these condition is not met, your message will be sent as a regular text message.

 

Hope this helps! Smiley



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@FidoJulienwrote:

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In order to be able to use RCS, the following conditions must be met:

 

- Both parties need to have RCS enabled on their device

- Both parties need to be with the same service provider

As I said in my original message when I try to send a message, even to myself.... Since in such a case, I am both the sending and receiving party I'm pretty sure I meet both of those requirements.

 


@FidoJulienwrote:

If one of these condition is not met, your message will be sent as a regular text message.

Which one do you think is not being met when both the sender and receiver are the same person?

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Re: Does everyone have RCS by now?

to answer your question

 

A) I have had RCS installed for quite some time now, several months, maybe even a year in my humble opinion.  I have a friend who is NOT on Fido, but he is Rogers Wireless, so essentially sister company, and the message is sent as an RCS message to him instead of a text message to him, even when the cellular network is turned off and my wifi is on the message still goes thru as RCS message, pretty neat eh?

 

I also know that some people are slow to migrate to RCS, one of them my friend at work, he has an android and all, and I've mentioned to him about RCS and Android Messenger, he was like yeah I'll do it later and never got around to it.

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Hey @BrianJM


I'm sure we can figure this out together.


Which phone model are you using now? 

Also, is it a Fido device?

 

And have you been able to ever use RCS with this device since you started to use it?



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@FidoKennywrote:

Hey @BrianJM


I'm sure we can figure this out together.


Which phone model are you using now? 

Exact phone and model should not matter. It's running Nougat so it meets the requirements for Android Messages to be able to use RCS as far as I understand.

 


@FidoKenny
Also, is it a Fido device?

No, but that also should not matter as long as Fido is not playing games to boost phone sales and only supporting features on phones they sell.

 


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And have you been able to ever use RCS with this device since you started to use it?

I've never tried before.

 

So the answer to my original question is yes, then, everybody should have RCS by now?

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Hey @BrianJM,

 

Thanks for the information Smiley The reason behind our questions is to better understand the issue at hand, who's affected and what could be the reason behind it.

 

Most Android users are indeed able to use RCS if they have activated Android Message. Rather than testing with your own phone number, can you try with someone that is with Fido and has the option activated on his phone? 

 

Let us know! 



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@FidoThomaswrote:

Hey @BrianJM,

 

Thanks for the information Smiley The reason behind our questions is to better understand the issue at hand, who's affected and what could be the reason behind it.

 

Fair enough. I just don't want to get sidetracked by issues that should not be related.

 


@FidoThomaswrote:

Most Android users are indeed able to use RCS if they have activated Android Message. Rather than testing with your own phone number, can you try with someone that is with Fido and has the option activated on his phone? 

 

I don't know anyone that fits that bill. I'm the only Fido user I know of. I know people who are on Roger's that I should be able to test with but I will have to get together with them to have them install Android Messages and enable RCS first.

 

But trying to send to myself really should work.

 

If you have Android Messages and have RCS you should be able to see yourself as a non-SMS contact recipient when trying to send a message to your own number.  That would be interesting to know in fact. Does it appear that way for you?

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The best way to test it out would be to try it with someone who has RCS enabled on their Android too.

 

When you'll be texting someone, it should say "Enter Chat message" and the "send" button should be green when using RCS.  This window will say "Enter Message" and the "send" button would be orange with MMS/SMS.

 

Currently I'm unable to confirm if you can verify the above by texting yourself though.

 

Keep us updated!



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@FidoSaadwrote:

The best way to test it out would be to try it with someone who has RCS enabled on their Android too.

Of course. But as I said previously, I don't know anyone else with RCS enabled (yet) so I can only test with myself. I have read others using RCS with Android message that say that when they message themselves, it shows up properly as RCS.

 


@FidoSaadwrote:

When you'll be texting someone, it should say "Enter Chat message" and the "send" button should be green when using RCS.  This window will say "Enter Message" and the "send" button would be orange with MMS/SMS.


Thanks. I know how it's supposed to work. It's just not working that way for me.

 


@FidoSaadwrote:

Currently I'm unable to confirm if you can verify the above by texting yourself though.

 


So then, you don't have RCS either? Because if you did, you could simply try sending yourself a message in Android Messages and see how it behaves and report back.
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I too did not know who to test it with when it first came out and I was one of the first few to start using it.  I was able to find a few handful of people on here (fido forums) who were willing to test RCS functionality with myself on here and that is how I confirm it works for me.

 

After a good year of using it, only 1 other person on my phones contact book uses RCS and he is with Rogers.

Lots of my other friends are "capable" of using RCS but they do not see the benefit of this and are postponing to install the messenger application on their phone. When I asked them why, they said they don't need it because they use apps like Whats App, Skype, and Face Book Messenger.

 

I dunno about you guys but I want to stop using third party apps like Whats App and Skype and just stick to Android Messenger/Android Messages, but the fact that some people are not willing to become early adopters is making it more challenging for someone like me.

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@BrianJM I've done some testing on my side. :Smiley:

 

I use a Huawei P10 from Fido. When I send a message to my own number with the RCS active, it's sent as a SMS. But when I send a text to an other Fido user that has the function enabled on his phone, it's sent as a RCS message.

 

You'll need to find someone to test it, and confirm that it is working correctly on your device. Let us know how it goes!

 

 

 



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@FidoThomaswrote:

You'll need to find someone to test it, and confirm that it is working correctly on your device. Let us know how it goes! 


Yeah, I was able to test it with a Rogers' user and I was pleased to see it went RCS. Pretty strange that a person messaging them self doesn't see it as an RCS message.

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Even stranger... that same person I was able to use RCS with last night is back to showing as using SMS when I open Android Messages and open that contact this morning.

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Interesting, I wouldn't be able to explain that. Maybe the user is no longer using the Android Message as the default messaging app? I'll try on my side to see if I can replicate this Smiley

 

Is anyone in the Community experiencing the same thing?

 

 



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