LTE Advanced/Carrier Aggregation

LTE Advanced/Carrier Aggregation

LTE Advanced/Carrier Aggregation

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kevinj1
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LTE Advanced/Carrier Aggregation

Does Fido have carrier aggregation, and if so, in which configurations?  I have an M4 Aqua I bought from Fido, and I have never seen it on anything but AWS (1700/2100 aka Band 4).  I know it also supports LTE bands 7 (2600mhz) and also 12/17 (700mhz).  Does Fido support LTE-Advanced like it's parent company?  Also, I am in Ottawa, which on rogers coverage does not have LTE-Advanced.  Odd, since we were the launch market for Rogers LTE in 2011.  Supposedly, Rogers has aggressive LTE-Advanced rollout plans, but we are getting close to the end of the year, I was expecting to see it here by now.  

 

Also, if anyone knows of an app that allows me to switch LTE bands on a locked, unmodded M4 Aqua running 5.0 lollipop, that would also be greatly appreciated Smiley

 

 

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Re: LTE Advanced/Carrier Aggregation

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@kevinj1 wrote:

Rachel - the connection to Fido LTE is very stable.  The speed is acceptable, i have seen it as high at 90 mbps down.  All I could find from qualcomm about the 615 is that it was a category 4 LTE device, meaning it was LTE-Advanced capable, but only with 20 MHZ of combined frequency in certain configurations.  I think Fido band 4 is 20 mhz, and 2600 mhz is 10mhz so that is likely why it will not leave band 4. 


 

Hello,

 

  Just to clarify, a category 4 LTE device does not necessarily mean the device is LTE-A capable. The LTE categories only define maximum transmission speeds. For example, a category 4 device/network is capable of maximum download of 150 Mbits and upload of 50 Mbits. 

 

  While a category 4 device may indeed be LTE-A capable, those capabilities are dependent on hardware. For example, the following screen capture of 412 and 415 processors is taken from the comparison of Qualcomm Snapdragon processors.

Snapdragon 400.jpg
   If you note, both integrated modems are category 4 but only the modem in the Snapdragon 412 is capable of LTE-A.

 

  The processor in the M4 is the Snapdragon 615:

Snapdragon 615.jpg

 

    Unfortunately, the Snapdragon 615 does not appear to be capable of LTE-A.

 

 

  With regards to band selection, the phone would select the best band given the circumstances ie signal strength, channel bandwidth, etc.

 

  Bandwidths are scalable (1.4, 3, 5, 10, 15, 20 MHz), designed to help operators more easily migrate from narrowband technologies (e.g., GSM and CDMA2000) to LTE while also recognizing that wider bandwidth deployments of LTE would be required to achieve the target peak data rates (taken from here).

 

  Assuming the Fido bandwidths you mentioned are correct, then the phone would connect at 2x10MHz on band 4 and 2x5MHz on band 7. I suspect under different circumstances ie poor band 4 signal strength combined with good band 7 or 17 signal strength, the phone will use another band.

 

Hope this helps Smiley

 

Cheers

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alexhan559
I'm a Participant Level 2

Is there a map of the LTE+ coverage? Also, is there a date on when it will be available for London, Ont?

Not for the moment @alexhan559! Keep an eye out on Fido.ca for updates Smiley

 

- Nick



alexhan559
I'm a Participant Level 2

Ok, thanks for the fast reply guys Smiley

Anytime! Very_Happy 



Soljah
I'm a Participant Level 3

It appears Fido has now activated carrier aggregation as I'm receiving LTE+ connections on my Huawei P10 Plus (128GB / 6GB International version).

So far this has been happening in Kitchener/Waterloo and the GTA.

It should be noted that I have also placed my sim card in the Google Pixel XL, Samsung Galaxy S7 Edge, and Huawei Mate 9 and none of them were able to receive LTE+ connections.
kevinj1
I'm a Contributor Level 1

Cawtau,  Thank you for pointing that out from qualcomm's site.  I can't believe I didn't notice that before purchasing the device ;).

Sami123
I'm a Participant Level 2

Hey! I also was wondering the same thing, and did have 2 questions.

I am thinking of getting an unlocked phone (Samsung Galaxy S6 International  Version) which is compatible with LTE bands of:

1(2100), 2(1900), 3(1800), 4(1700/2100), 5(850), 7(2600), 8(900), 12(700), 17(700), 18(800), 19(800), 20(800), 26(850)

And I wanted to ask, is this phone comatible with Fido's LTE-Advanced network (carrier aggretion) and is it VoLTE compatible? Again it is an unlocked phone.

Thanks,

Regards.

*UPDATE*

Sorry forgot to add my location, I am near Couborg, Ontario, and hour East of Toronto. The ROGERS towers near my area provide signals at a Frequency of 850Mhz and 1900Mhz.


@Sami123 wrote:

Hey! I also was wondering the same thing, and did have 2 questions.

I am thinking of getting an unlocked phone (Samsung Galaxy S6 International  Version) which is compatible with LTE bands of:

1(2100), 2(1900), 3(1800), 4(1700/2100), 5(850), 7(2600), 8(900), 12(700), 17(700), 18(800), 19(800), 20(800), 26(850)

And I wanted to ask, is this phone comatible with Fido's LTE-Advanced network (carrier aggretion) and is it VoLTE compatible? Again it is an unlocked phone.

Thanks,

Regards.

*UPDATE*

Sorry forgot to add my location, I am near Couborg, Ontario, and hour East of Toronto. The ROGERS towers near my area provide signals at a Frequency of 850Mhz and 1900Mhz.


 

Hello Sami123,

 

 Welcome to the forums!

 

  First, that phone would have all of the bands/frequencies for LTE. You can verify the compatible bands here.

 

  With regards to carrier aggregation and voLTE, I believe @FidoMaria is looking into it for you.

 

  With regards to your last statement, are there additional towers with different bands/frequencies in your areaÉ If those are the only bands/frequencies in the area, you are not likely to get LTE. There are no LTE bands/frequencies at those towers you listed.

 

  Hope this helps Smiley

 

Cheers


Sami123
I'm a Participant Level 2

Oh I see, I checked an online database, that may be inaccurate. ertyu.org. I do get LTE there, as I have another phone that does recieve LTE. 

Cheers Smiley


@Sami123 wrote:

Oh I see, I checked an online database, that may be inaccurate. ertyu.org. I do get LTE there, as I have another phone that does recieve LTE. 

Cheers Smiley


 

Hello,

 

  I tend to use that site as well. It is entirely possible that some of the tower information needs to be updated. However, does your phone actually show LTE or does it show 4G? If it's the latter, it's possible that the connection is H+ rather than LTE, which would correspond to the bands/frequencies shown in the area.

 

Cheers


Sami123
I'm a Participant Level 2

It shows LTE (Long term evolution or Real 4G LTE) not HSPA+ (3G/H/ Fake 4G). My area is also covered by LTE according to Fido's coverage map.

I have just bought the S6 Smiley and just wanted to know will an unlocked S6 be compatible with LTE-ADVANCED (CAT 6) and/or VoLTE (HD Voice).  Also I am out of the country at the moment and can't access Fido just yet, until I come back to Canada. @FidoMaria@Cawtau

 

Thanks! Smiley

Chhers

Hi there Sami123

 

We only offer the LTE network at the moment. Although there's no mention of LTE-A on Fido.ca today, we're still looking into it, to get more information 😃 I'd simply suggest to stay tuned here for updates. 

 

To obtain the VoLTE (HD Voice) service, you must have a Fido phone (no exceptions) as the service is not available to non-Fido devices. 

 

I hope this helped!

 

 



Just a heads up everyone, we're still waiting for official confirmation. 

 

Thanks for hanging in there Smiley 

 

 



Thanks for the wait everyone!

 

Fido does provide LTE-A in certain areas in Canada and will continue to expand its reach. LTE-A depends on the device you have, on where you’re located, the different types of spectrum and how busy the network is at that time. Depending on these factors, you may not notice a difference compared to LTE, which provides very fast data speeds, great in building signal reach (with Fido’s premium 700 MHz spectrum) and is available today on the Fido network to over 93% of Canadians! Once we completely launch LTE-A, you’ll know it on fido.ca Wink

 

Thanks again! 



Thumper1
I'm a Participant Level 1

Can you tell me what kind of plan I would need to see the LTE-A speeds ?

I have an iphone7 with Pulse Max Plan living in Toronto and have yet to see it. 

If I am not mistaken, your last reponse was 8 months ago with confirmation of the LTE-A launch.

Thank you 

We're still on LTE now @Thumper1, no LTE-A yet Smiley

 

Stay tuned on Fido.ca for any changes about that, if any!



Skywalkerblue06
I'm a Contributor Level 2

Hi guys, Any update Carrier Aggregation...we pay almost premium as rogers customer but fido dont have this feature yet...last update was end of December 2016...

Hey @Skywalkerblue06

 

Thanks for reaching out Smiley

 

Let me look into this for you , I'll update you once I have more info! 



@Sami123! We're looking to obtain more info on this. We'll update this thread shortly. Smiley



Cawtau
Senior MVP


@kevinj1 wrote:

Does Fido have carrier aggregation, and if so, in which configurations?  I have an M4 Aqua I bought from Fido, and I have never seen it on anything but AWS (1700/2100 aka Band 4).  I know it also supports LTE bands 7 (2600mhz) and also 12/17 (700mhz).  Does Fido support LTE-Advanced like it's parent company?  Also, I am in Ottawa, which on rogers coverage does not have LTE-Advanced.  Odd, since we were the launch market for Rogers LTE in 2011.  Supposedly, Rogers has aggressive LTE-Advanced rollout plans, but we are getting close to the end of the year, I was expecting to see it here by now.  

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 Hello Kevinj1,

 

  As far as I can tell, I don't think the M4 Aqua is a LTE-A capable phone. While the Wikipedia list might not be fully complete or up-to-date, I have not been able to find any information to suggest that the M4 is capable of LTE-A.

 

  Hope this helps Smiley

 

Cheers


Skywalkerblue06
I'm a Contributor Level 2

I am using lg g4 since last month and I lived in Toronto I didnt experience any Lte-A.