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Fido Scam and the Specialist Can't trust customer

xiashoucheng
I'm a participant level 3
I'm a participant level 3

I was outside of Canada with my phone cellular data is off and roaming feature is off too. Fido bill shows that I have used 54kb data in total for three days, and Fido charged me $50 dollars for that. My cellphone history shows no data being used for the last 30 days, not one single kb.  Unlike the last month specialist(yes it happened to my last month bill too 20kb something), the specialist named Gabriel from Toronto refused to waive the overcharge and insisted I was lying (her saying: there is now way data being used as long as cellular datab utton and roaming buttons are off ). I did some research, her saying is incorrect in this case. The most likely cause is Fido incorrectly logged pin and another possible cause is network handshake. Neither of these two are user initiated and should never charge. I think it is beyond a common sense that a person can use 54kb data during three days under this smart era.

 

 

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sarwandogra8888
I'm a participant level 1
I'm a participant level 1

Fido is ripping me every month with some hidden or cleverly charging more money from me.   Last month I disconnected roaming and overseas calling from all my 3 lines since they increased the charges without emaling me.  I called fido and got overseas and roaming  removed from all my 3 lines from their rep and supervisor.  I got email that roaming from all 3 lines is disconneted and rep ensured me that I will not be able to call overseas even by mistake.  I tested last month and I was not able to call overseas.  I have another number local to my country where I call but some times while making call it wrongly picks fido line so I made sure fido never connects my call to overseas.  Suprisingly this month I got $46 charges for overseas calling!  Did not understand why findo cleverly enabled overseas calling without telling me.   

Today I called Fido to express my concern and the reason of enbling roaming again without telling me but rep was not able to address my concern instead asked me to pay the bill and call next week April 29 and rep will be able to resolve the issue.

Greatly disappointed with Fido's cheating behavior!

 

Hello Sarwandogra8888,

 

Welcome to the community!

 

  Sorry to hear of your issue. However, as mentioned in the solution to this thread, we do not have access to customers' accounts nor would we know what was previously discussed. 

 

  That said, it would be important to note that roaming and calling overseas is not necessarily the same thing. Roaming would be any usage outside of Canada. On the other hand, calling overseas would be considered International calling. Roaming incurs roaming charges (Fido Roam); calling overseas incurs long-distance charges (LD). It should be also noted that making calls while outside of Canada can incur both Fido Roam and LD charges depending on destination of the call recipient number (see here).

 

  Are the charges you incurred for Fido Roam or long-distance?

 


@sarwandogra8888 wrote:

....  I have another number local to my country where I call but some times while making call it wrongly picks fido line so I made sure fido never connects my call to overseas. ..


  From that statement, it sounds like you are referring to roaming usage. If you did not wish to avail of the feature, you would have to opt-out of Fido Roam. In doing so, any usage would be on a pay-per-use basis. Those rates can be found here. Alternatively, if you did not wish to use any services, you would could request to have roaming blocked on your account. Though, a roaming block would also limit access to extended coverage in Canada (Fido-EXT). 

 

  I understand you may have already disconnected roaming on your lines, however, you would need to verify which option is applied to your account as some customers had assumed they requested a total roaming block only to find pay-per-use usage abroad (opt-out Fido Roam). It's possible there was a misunderstanding and your lines were opted-out of Fido Roam, but did not have a roaming block applied.

 

  If you wished to discuss your matter and/or verify whether your lines opted-out of Fido Roam or have actual roaming blocks, you would need to contact customer service. I understand you are currently outside of Canda. They do offer a number to call From Abroad.

 

Hope this helps 😀

 

Cheers


Cawtau
Senior MVP Senior MVP
Senior MVP

Hello Xiashoucheng,

 

  Sorry to hear you've incurred unexpected roaming charges. However, you should note the forums are community-driven and not intended as a venue for customer services. We do not have access to customers' accounts nor would we know what was previously discussed.

 

  You should also note that it is not a Fido issue. I understand your mobile data and roaming data settings were disabled. However, the mobile providers only know usage, not what settings may or may not have been enabled on a particuar device. Unfortunately, the device did log data usage.

 

  I also understand that you may not have intended on using data. However, you should note that disabling those settings does not prevent roaming for voice and messaging. In addition, some manufacturers might allow some data usage to occur despite those settings (see here). That's why it is also generally recommended to enable Airplane and/or Flight modes in order to prevent unplanned roaming usage. You could then manually enable Wifi when required. 

 

  I am also aware some people have referenced other providers not charging for such data usage. While they may have forgiven an initial instance of such roaming data, they appear to also be charging for data usage even with those settings disabled (see here, here, and here). The issue is not limited to Fido (or Rogers).

 

  I'm sure there are others who will claim it's a Canadian mobile provider issue. However, the issue appears to also affect our neighbours South of the border (see here and here). Their plans and roaming features may be slightly different than on this side of the border, yet people also note data roaming charges despite data settings disabled. In addition, the issue appears to also affect European Countries (see here).

 


@xiashoucheng wrote:

... The most likely cause is Fido incorrectly logged pin and another possible cause is network handshake...


 

   There are numerous examples showing that this issue seemingly affects customers Worldwide. The issue is some devices are letting the data usage despite data and roaming data settings disabled. Yes, there are people who have suggested it's due to a network handshake or phones pinging the cellular towers. All mobile phones ping and conduct handshakes with cellular towers. However, the issue does not affect all cellular devices. As illustrated by this member on another forum, only some devices have this issue (see here). Apple has apparently acknowedged that their devices do allow 'SIM data' with data and roaming data settings disabled (see forum thread above). Unfortunately, no one is holding the manufacturers accountable.

 

  I do not know what device you use. However, with the case of iPhones, I believe the issue stems from Apple and their protected ecosystem. The reason I heard a long time ago (unfortunately unable to locate reference) was that Apple devices need to connect to their servers in order to operate correctly. That connection is not a simple cellular tower handshake or ping and not related to mobile providers.

 

  If you do not use an iPhone, it's possible the manufacturer of the device also requires similar access to outside servers. As mentioned, all devices ping cellular towers. However, only some devices need to connect to other servers as well...

 

Hope this helps 😀

 

Cheers