August 2023
I will be traveling to Germany and France in September. I understand that I have already "opted in" to a Roaming Plan that charges $15.00/day. I presume that data and cellphone airtime are charged in addition to the $15.00/day ante. My objective is to just use the cellphone for digital tickets (e.g. plane and train tickets) and so I will turn on Airplane Mode and just leave it that way for most of my trip. I will be overseas for 3 weeks so the $15.00/day Roaning Plan already translates into >$300.00 hence ,my desire to just go off-line as much as possible, Am I on the right track?
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August 2023
Hello Honest_Alberto,
Welcome to the community!
You are correct in your understanding that if you have a plan other than the Basic plans or pre-paid, it would already have Fido Roam enabled. However, the Fido Roam charges will only incur if your phone uses services -- make or receive a call, send a text message or use data abroad. In addition, the daily roaming charge is inclusive of data and airtime so there are no additional charges for those on top of the roaming fee.
It should be mentioned that while receiving SMS would not incur the roaming charge, any data contained within MMS (incoming or outgoing) would be considered roaming data and charged accordingly. You should note that MMS are not solely restricted to pictures or video messages. Messages with subject headers or group messages etc are also considered MMS. It should further be noted that iMessages and RCS messages are sent (and received) as data and not as text messages (SMS).
If you did not wish to use Fido Roam, you would need to opt-out of the feature. In doing so, any usage would be on a pay-per-use basis. You can view those rates here. If you wished to opt-out of Fido Roam, you would need to contact customer service. In addition, they can also be contacted via Live Chat, Facebook, or Twitter. Those methods can be accessed via the contact page posted above.
In order to prevent unintended roaming charges, it is generally recommended to disable data and roaming data. However, you should note that disabling those settings does not prevent roaming for voice and messaging. In addition, some manufacturers might allow some data usage to occur despite those settings (see here). That's why it is also generally recommended to enable Airplane and/or Flight modes in order to prevent unintended roaming usage. You could then manually enable Wifi when required. Alternatively, people have also removed their Fido SIMs card entirely, However, enabling Airplane / Flight mode or removing the SIM card would also prevent your device from making and/or receiving calls or sending and/or receiving SMS using the local cellular networks.
As well, it should be noted that while using Wifi for regular internet access will not incur Fido Roam charges, there seems to be some misunderstanding regarding Wifi-calling. I'm not sure how people have gotten the impression that Wifi-calling does not use the networks. However, that is not true. While the calls and messages do not transmit via cellular towers, they still use the networks via the internet gateway (see image here). The cellular towers and Wifi are merely alternate means of accessing the networks. Calls and messages would not be able to complete or get sent/received without the networks. As such, using Wifi-calling is technically using Fido services. However, they have allowed certain usage to be free from additional charges. All the messages and calls you receive (from anywhere in the world) will be taken from your plan's voice minutes and messaging limits. As well, all Wifi-calling messages and calls you make to a Canadian phone number while abroad won't incur long-distance or roaming charges (see link above).
Hope this helps 😀
Cheers
August 2023
step 1. place airplane mode in canadian airport.
step 2. land in france or germany airport, goto local european carrier get an vistor sim, remove fido sim, install european sim. do not lose your fido sim card.
step 3. turn off airplane mode in france/germany airport, check fido voice mail everyday, use socials to mention to others to message u (instead of using text messaging).
step 4. air france/germany airport, place phone in airplane mode.
step 5. place fido sim card once you arrive back into canada (i hope you still have your luggage , instead lost by air canada.) turn off airplane mode.
August 2023
Hello Patrickchan,
I understand you wish to share your preferred method of travel with others in the community.
@patrickchan wrote:
..., check fido voice mail everyday...
It should be noted that checking Fido voicemail using a foreign SIM to call would likely be considered an International long-distance call. Many SIM cards do not include International calling and would therefore incur additional costs on the foreign SIM.
As mentioned in my reply to your other recent post, there can be benefits with using local SIM cards for travel. However, it also has some potential limitations for some customers.
Cheers
a month ago
Hello,
I am going to travel to China, and I have a Fido eSIM and a Chinese physical SIM card installed on my iPhone. I am wondering how to disable everything when I am in China to forbid additional fees. If possible, I want to keep my Fido SIM activated so I can receive text messages for verification codes (but I do not need telephone calling, sending text messages, data roaming, etc.).
a month ago
Hello Zby,
Welcome to the community!
I understand you are intending using a dual-SIM device. There is no standard as to how dual-SIMs function. Some manufacturers might offer the ability to completely disable a SIM. Alternatively, they might allow certain usage to one SIM over the other. You would need to set those settings accordingly. However, some settings would affect both SIMs. I don't think enabling Airplane or Flight mode on your device would be an option as it would also affect your Chinese SIM. In addition, you would not be able to receive SMS on your Fido SIM.
As mentioned above, receiving MMS is different from receiving SMS and will likely incur roaming charges. Even if the text message received is SMS, if your device is configured to provide Delivery and/or Read receipts, those would be sent as SMS and considered roaming usage.
Since you do not require roaming data, you might consider disabling that setting on your device. However, you would need to know whether that setting disables all data usage on the Fido SIM or not.
Unfortunately, there are no absolute steps which can ensure no roaming charges. The mobile providers only know usage. If there is no usage abroad, there will be no roaming charges. However, if a device is using services when its settings are set not to use them, that's an issue with the device. The mobile providers have no access to a device's settings to know what settings are enabled/disabled. If you wish to receive text messages, there is unfortunately no 100% guarantee your device won't use other services and trigger roaming charges.
Hope this helps 😀
Cheers