FIDO LTE Bands Match

FIDO LTE Bands Match

FIDO LTE Bands Match

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xtrip
I'm a Participant Level 2

FIDO LTE Bands Match

hello,

 

Ive been doing quite a bit of research and at this point Im still not sure about the following.

 

Will an international version of Nokia Lumia 920 will work with FIdo LTE?

 

The bands of the Nokia lumia thats being sold unlocked online are: LTE 800 / 1800 / 2600 / 900 / 2100

 

Do all of these bands have to match fido's lte bands? or 2100 is enough? 

 

thank you

 

 

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Re: FIDO LTE Bands Match

Solved by Community Specialist

Hey everyone, 

 

I think Cawtau's post Will my phone work on the Fido network might answer all your questions.

 

Cheers,

 

And thanks @Cawtau!  

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@ShawnK wrote:

Hi all,

A bit confused about LTE bands as I see vastly conflicting reports

 

I called into Fido, and a rep told me my phone required 700 mhz (band 17) 1700/2100 (band 4) and 2600 (band 7)

 

The phone I was thinking to buy is listed as bands 4,5,7  850, 2100, 2600mhz

So will LTE work (band 7 2600 only?) 

 

And any idea why phone specs list band 4 2100 but no 1700 support?

 

Fido has a support page on which no mention of 700mhz or AWS (is it out of date?)

https://www.fido.ca/web/content/phonewarranty/configure_unlocked_device_guide&lang=en


Hello ShawnK,

 

  Wow! I'm glad to hear that Fido reps are now informing people of what the required bands/frequencies are. All of my previous attempts to find out from Fido resulted in 'we don't know, but you can try a SIM to find out if it works.'

 

  I am not convinced that band 7 (2600) alone will be able to access the LTE network (see some of my previous posts). However, the phone you mentioned should be able to access the network because it also has band 4 (AWS or 1700/2100).

 

  I'm not sure why the phone manufacturer did not list 1700 in their specs even though they list band 4. Maybe the reasoning is similar to why 1700 is not listed in Fido's 'How to' page. There is no unified convention between phone manufacturers and mobile companies for the listing of bands/frequencies. Some groups would say that they should have listed 1700 rather than 2100 because of the confusion with band 1.

 

  Additionally, there have been occasions where some phones have bands that are not mentioned in their specifications. This could be due to the mass production of parts and target markets. It could be more cost effective to use the same part in different phone models rather than to produce multiple market-specific parts. They then could just list the bands/frequences required by those markets. That reasoning, however, is purely my speculation. There is a way of checking what bands your phone can actually access, but I'm not sure how to do it.

 

  With regards to your potential phone, the fact that they mention band 4 would mean that it does support AWS and have both 1700 and 2100 regardless of whether or not 1700 was listed.

 

  Yes, Fido needs to update their 'How to' page.

 

Cheers

 


wingche
I'm a Participant Level 1

I am using Xiaomi Redmi Note 4G right now ! I can't use LTE on this phone?

 

Xiaomi Redmi Note 4G
4G LTE: FDD-LTE (1800/2100MHz)   TDD-LTE (2600MHz);   

3G:WCDMA: 850/900/1900/2100MHz  

2G:GSM:850/900/1800/1900Mhz;

  Anyone can help ? thank

Devil_Fudou
I'm a Participant Level 2


@wingche wrote:

I am using Xiaomi Redmi Note 4G right now ! I can't use LTE on this phone?

 

Xiaomi Redmi Note 4G
4G LTE: FDD-LTE (1800/2100MHz)   TDD-LTE (2600MHz);   

3G:WCDMA: 850/900/1900/2100MHz  

2G:GSM:850/900/1800/1900Mhz;

  Anyone can help ? thank


hi there, not sure if you still need it, but Redmi Note 4G can use LTE with Fido, as i just got mine to work

use this APN settings, and then reboot

APN: ltemobile.apn
MMSC: http://mms.fido.ca
MMS Port: 80
MCC: 302
MNC: 370
APN type: default,mms,supl
Auth type: None
Protocol: IPV4V6


@Devil_Fudou wrote:

@wingche wrote:

I am using Xiaomi Redmi Note 4G right now ! I can't use LTE on this phone?

 

Xiaomi Redmi Note 4G
4G LTE: FDD-LTE (1800/2100MHz)   TDD-LTE (2600MHz);   

3G:WCDMA: 850/900/1900/2100MHz  

2G:GSM:850/900/1800/1900Mhz;

  Anyone can help ? thank


hi there, not sure if you still need it, but Redmi Note 4G can use LTE with Fido, as i just got mine to work

use this APN settings, and then reboot

APN: ltemobile.apn
MMSC: http://mms.fido.ca
MMS Port: 80
MCC: 302
MNC: 370
APN type: default,mms,supl
Auth type: None
Protocol: IPV4V6


Hello Devil_Fudou,

 

  Thanks for the input and welcome to the forums!

 

  There are some versions of the Redmi Note 4G which are compatible with Fido/Rogers' LTE network and other versions which are not. For instance, the version from Singapore is compatible while the version from India is not. I'm sure there are other versions as well. Unfortunately, judging by the specifications listed, the version Wingche had problems with was not compatible with the network.

 

  I'm glad to hear that your version does work with Fido/Rogers' LTE.

 

Cheers


hurric
I'm a Participant Level 2

Will the new zenfone 2 purcahsed from Taiwan work with Fido for both data and calling?

 

specs are:

 

4G band: FDD-LTE: 700(28)/900(8)/1800(3)

3G:WCDMA:850/900/1900/2100;TD-SCDMA:1900/2100

2G:EDGE/GPRS/GSM: 850/900/1800/1900,

4G band:FDD-LTE: 700(28)/900(8)/1800(3)

3G:WCDMA:850/900/1900/2100;TD-SCDMA:1900/2100

2G:EDGE/GPRS/GSM: 850/900/1800/1900


@hurric wrote:

Will the new zenfone 2 purcahsed from Taiwan work with Fido for both data and calling?

 

specs are:

 

4G band: FDD-LTE: 700(28)/900(8)/1800(3)

3G:WCDMA:850/900/1900/2100;TD-SCDMA:1900/2100

2G:EDGE/GPRS/GSM: 850/900/1800/1900,

4G band:FDD-LTE: 700(28)/900(8)/1800(3)

3G:WCDMA:850/900/1900/2100;TD-SCDMA:1900/2100

2G:EDGE/GPRS/GSM: 850/900/1800/1900


Hey hurric!

 

In order to use LTE, your phone must have one or more of the following bands:

 

  • 700 MHz on Band 17
  • 1700/2100 MHz on Band 4
  • 2600 MHz on Band 7

Unfortunately it does not look like your Zenfone 2 is compatible with the LTE bands used here, however, you will still be able to access 2G and 3G for voice, data and messaging.

 

Hope this helps!



hurric
I'm a Participant Level 2

thank you for the reply. 😕 Although I'm not currently using LTE, I guess it's not good that it's not supported. May have to wait for a N/A edition of zenfone2

Devil_Fudou
I'm a Participant Level 2

 


@wingche wrote:

I am using Xiaomi Redmi Note 4G right now ! I can't use LTE on this phone?

 

Xiaomi Redmi Note 4G
4G LTE: FDD-LTE (1800/2100MHz)   TDD-LTE (2600MHz);   

3G:WCDMA: 850/900/1900/2100MHz  

2G:GSM:850/900/1800/1900Mhz;

  Anyone can help ? thank


Hello Wingche,

 

  Unfortunately, I do not believe you will be able to get LTE using that phone. Firstly, Fido/Rogers uses FDD so the the 2600 MHz on TDD would not be compatible even with the same frequency. Secondly, the 2100 MHz refers to AWS or Band 4 (1700/2100) rather than Band 1 as suggested on the 'How to' page. I would suspect that a phone coming out of Asia would refer to 2100 MHz as Band 1 unless specifically stating it was AWS compatible for North American use.

 

  That said, check the bands/frequencies that your phone can access. (I'm not sure how to do this, so maybe someone else can help in that regard.) There have been instances where the phones could actually access the proper bands/frequencies even though they were not specifically mentioned in their printed specifications.

 

Cheers


leochiu
I'm a Participant Level 1

Can i manually choose what lte band to be used on my phone? Does band 17 have the fastest network speed? I am planning to get an unlocked Bell Note 4. Thanks

dndn007
I'm a Participant Level 1

Hi, I'm still confused in how the cell bands match to fido's network..

 

A cell doesn't specify about LTE bands but only lists the following:

 

2G Network: GSM 850, 900, 1800, 1900

3G Network: HSDPA 2100
 
Would this cell work in the fido network?
 
Thanks in advance! 😃


@dndn007 wrote:

Hi, I'm still confused in how the cell bands match to fido's network..

 

A cell doesn't specify about LTE bands but only lists the following:

 

2G Network: GSM 850, 900, 1800, 1900

3G Network: HSDPA 2100
 
Would this cell work in the fido network?
 
Thanks in advance! 😃

Hello dndn007,

 

  That phone would work on the 2G network, but not on the 3G network. Fido/Rogers uses 850 and 1900 MHz for their 3G network.

 

Cheers


RajR
I'm a Participant Level 2

So, i need to have either one of 2100 or 2600 to get lte coverage? And both doesn't have to be on the phone?


@RajR wrote:

So, i need to have either one of 2100 or 2600 to get lte coverage? And both doesn't have to be on the phone?


Hello RajR,

 

  Before I completely dance around your questions with a less than definitive answer, let me first clarify that the 2100 refers to Advanced Wireless Services or AWS (Band 4; 1700/2100 MHz) rather than Band 1 as suggested on the 'How to' page. This notion is confirmed with the recent launch of Rogers' LTE-Advanced (LTE-A) where they refer to AWS as the 'backbone' of their LTE network. So the frequencies for Fido/Rogers' LTE are AWS, 2600, and 700 MHz.

 

  If your phone only supports AWS, then you should be able to access the LTE network. It is still unclear, however, as to whether or not AWS is required to access the LTE network or not. That is, are 2600 or 700 sufficient on their own to access the network?

 

  If you are hoping to utilise LTE-A, then you would need a LTE-A capable phone as not all phones would be able to function in that capacity even if they had both AWS and 700.

 

  I hope that helps.

 

Cheers


al819
I'm a Participant Level 1

I'm interested in getting the Moto X Pure Edition and was wondering if it would be compatible on Fido networks. Here are the specs from the manufactuer:

Moto X - Pure Edition (GSM Unlocked with T-Mobile SIM - XT1095):
GSM/GPRS/EDGE (850, 900, 1800, 1900 MHz)
UMTS/HSPA+ (850, 900, 1700 (AWS), 1900, 2100 MHz)
4G LTE (02, 04, 17)

 

From what I can understand Fido is:

 

GSM/GPRS/EDGE/UMTS/HSPA+ (850 and 1900 MHz) which means the XT1095 is compatible

LTE (700, 2100, 2600 MHz) which means the XT1095 will only be compatible with one frequency so I will only get partial LTE coverage depending on where I am.  


@al819 wrote:

I'm interested in getting the Moto X Pure Edition and was wondering if it would be compatible on Fido networks. Here are the specs from the manufactuer:

Moto X - Pure Edition (GSM Unlocked with T-Mobile SIM - XT1095):
GSM/GPRS/EDGE (850, 900, 1800, 1900 MHz)
UMTS/HSPA+ (850, 900, 1700 (AWS), 1900, 2100 MHz)
4G LTE (02, 04, 17)

 

From what I can understand Fido is:

 

GSM/GPRS/EDGE/UMTS/HSPA+ (850 and 1900 MHz) which means the XT1095 is compatible

LTE (700, 2100, 2600 MHz) which means the XT1095 will only be compatible with one frequency so I will only get partial LTE coverage depending on where I am.  


Hello,

 

  Actually, you're in luck! Fido/Rogers uses Band 4 (AWS) rather than Band 1 as suggested by the 2100MHz listed on their 'How to' page. So you should be able to access LTE via Band 4 as well as Band 17.

 

Cheers


Gaurav82
I'm a Participant Level 1

Hello I am going to buy unlocked model of Galaxy note 4 and it supports

Supported Bands: LTE: 2100 850, 1800, 900

Will it work with Fido

Thanks

KDCF
I'm a Participant Level 3


@Gaurav82 wrote:

Hello I am going to buy unlocked model of Galaxy note 4 and it supports

Supported Bands: LTE: 2100 850, 1800, 900

Will it work with Fido

Thanks


Maybe not. Be sure it supports LTE on AWS Band 4 (1700/2100).

 

The first unlocked HTC One M8 I purchased did not support AWS and I could not get an LTE connection in Winnipeg since there aren't any 2600 MHz towers.

 

ngocphi
I'm a Participant Level 1

hi i have a htc one m8 from bell but its unlocked 

 

i currently have a fido account it seems to work except i seem to have issues connecting to lte 

 

i only manage to get 3g or hspa

this is taken from wireless wave website 

supported Modes/Bands

LTE 2100/2600; HSPA 850/1700/1900/2100; GSM 850/900/1800/1900

nm the fido agent who set up my phone entered the 3g setting for the apn

i looked up the lte settings and fixed it Smiley

ty for your help 

shan--
I'm a Participant Level 2

If my phone supports the 2100 LTE band but not 2600, is it compatible with all of Fido's LTE markets?

tinytr16
I'm a Participant Level 1

Hi there,

 

I have an HTC One mini factory unlocked international version.  Will this work on the Fido LTE network?

 

  • 3G 900/1900/2100 MHz
  • 4G 800/1800/2600 Mhz

I also don't understand the AWS stuff.  It doesn't say anything in the specs for the HTC One mini to do with AWS...

 

Thanks!