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LTE Advanced/Carrier Aggregation

Does Fido have carrier aggregation, and if so, in which configurations?  I have an M4 Aqua I bought from Fido, and I have never seen it on anything but AWS (1700/2100 aka Band 4).  I know it also supports LTE bands 7 (2600mhz) and also 12/17 (700mhz).  Does Fido support LTE-Advanced like it's parent company?  Also, I am in Ottawa, which on rogers coverage does not have LTE-Advanced.  Odd, since we were the launch market for Rogers LTE in 2011.  Supposedly, Rogers has aggressive LTE-Advanced rollout plans, but we are getting close to the end of the year, I was expecting to see it here by now.  

 

Also, if anyone knows of an app that allows me to switch LTE bands on a locked, unmodded M4 Aqua running 5.0 lollipop, that would also be greatly appreciated Smiley

 

 

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@kevinj1 wrote:

Rachel - the connection to Fido LTE is very stable.  The speed is acceptable, i have seen it as high at 90 mbps down.  All I could find from qualcomm about the 615 is that it was a category 4 LTE device, meaning it was LTE-Advanced capable, but only with 20 MHZ of combined frequency in certain configurations.  I think Fido band 4 is 20 mhz, and 2600 mhz is 10mhz so that is likely why it will not leave band 4. 


 

Hello,

 

  Just to clarify, a category 4 LTE device does not necessarily mean the device is LTE-A capable. The LTE categories only define maximum transmission speeds. For example, a category 4 device/network is capable of maximum download of 150 Mbits and upload of 50 Mbits. 

 

  While a category 4 device may indeed be LTE-A capable, those capabilities are dependent on hardware. For example, the following screen capture of 412 and 415 processors is taken from the comparison of Qualcomm Snapdragon processors.

Snapdragon 400.jpg
   If you note, both integrated modems are category 4 but only the modem in the Snapdragon 412 is capable of LTE-A.

 

  The processor in the M4 is the Snapdragon 615:

Snapdragon 615.jpg

 

    Unfortunately, the Snapdragon 615 does not appear to be capable of LTE-A.

 

 

  With regards to band selection, the phone would select the best band given the circumstances ie signal strength, channel bandwidth, etc.

 

  Bandwidths are scalable (1.4, 3, 5, 10, 15, 20 MHz), designed to help operators more easily migrate from narrowband technologies (e.g., GSM and CDMA2000) to LTE while also recognizing that wider bandwidth deployments of LTE would be required to achieve the target peak data rates (taken from here).

 

  Assuming the Fido bandwidths you mentioned are correct, then the phone would connect at 2x10MHz on band 4 and 2x5MHz on band 7. I suspect under different circumstances ie poor band 4 signal strength combined with good band 7 or 17 signal strength, the phone will use another band.

 

Hope this helps Smiley

 

Cheers

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Not for the moment @alexhan559! Keep an eye out on Fido.ca for updates Smiley

 

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Ok, thanks for the fast reply guys Smiley

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It appears Fido has now activated carrier aggregation as I'm receiving LTE+ connections on my Huawei P10 Plus (128GB / 6GB International version).

So far this has been happening in Kitchener/Waterloo and the GTA.

It should be noted that I have also placed my sim card in the Google Pixel XL, Samsung Galaxy S7 Edge, and Huawei Mate 9 and none of them were able to receive LTE+ connections.
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Is LTE-A available in Quebec City? If so, I apparenly can't connect to it, with my iPhone X. I have download speeds of like 15Mbps on LTE.
If not, do you have an ETA?

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Hey @TwitchyPuppy !

 

When you’re connected to the LTE-Advanced network, you’ll see LTE+ on your device screen. If you are not connecting to it then it's not available in your area at the moment. 



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@FidoRanya wrote:

Hey @TwitchyPuppy !

 

When you’re connected to the LTE-Advanced network, you’ll see LTE+ on your device screen. If you are not connecting to it then it's not available in your area at the moment. 


iPhones don't show LTE+. A software restriction, I presume.

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Hey @TwitchyPuppy,

 

I'll look into this for you and try to get back to you with more info Smiley



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Hello TwitchyPuppy,

 

  Welcome to the community!

 

  Something to keep in mind is that not all cellular towers use all of the bands/frequencies. LTE+ combines two (or more) bands/frequencies (see above post here). If your surrounding cellular towers do not use the specific bands necessary for aggregation, then your phone would not be able to connect to LTE+ at that location. You can get an idea of your area towers here.

 

  In addition, something else to keep in mind is that connecting to LTE+ does not necessarily mean you will get faster speeds. Not only would it depend on the bands/frequencies aggregated, but also on the size of the bandwidth connected (in addition to many other factors). For instance, this community member here, noted LTE+ speeds which were slower than your LTE speeds.

 

  As noted in that thread, there are many things which can affect data speed -- strength of signal, network congestion, LTE band(s) or frequency(-ies) to which your device is connected, bandwidth, etc.

 

Hope this helps Smiley

 

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@FidoClaudiawrote:

Hey @TwitchyPuppy,

 

I'll look into this for you and try to get back to you with more info Smiley


Hi @FidoClaudia!

Any news regarding this?

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