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Roaming charges when data is off

Kcasucci
I'm a participant level 1
I'm a participant level 1

My son is travelling and has data turned off and is on airplane mode.  I just got an alert via email from Fido that he is roaming.  How is this even possible and how do I ensure we are not charged?

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Cawtau
Senior MVP Senior MVP
Senior MVP

Hello Kcasucci,

 

Welcome to the community!

 

  I understand you received an email notification indicating your son's device is roaming. You should note that merely receiving that Welcome Abroad message does not necessarily mean that his device had used services. It's an automatic notification to inform customers that the device connected to a foreign cellular tower, not that usage had occurred. I was able to confirm that merely receiving that message does not incur roaming fees (see here). However, if he does incur roaming charges, it's likely his device used other services when it connected to the foreign network.

 

  The Fido Roam charges will only incur if his phone uses services -- make or receive a call, send a text message or use data abroad. While receiving SMS would not incur the roaming charge, it's worth mentioning that the data contained within MMS (incoming or outgoing) would be considered roaming data and charged accordingly. You should note that MMS are not solely restricted to pictures or video messages. Messages with subject headers or group messages etc are also considered MMS. It should also be noted that RCS messages are sent (and received) as data and not as text messages (SMS). Even if a received text message is SMS, if a device is configured to provide Delivery and/or Read receipts, those would be sent as SMS or data and considered roaming usage.

 

  In order to ensure there are no roaming charges, he would need to ensure his device does not use services abroad. The mobile providers only know usage, they do not know what settings may or may not have been enabled/disabled on a device. No usage abroad, no roaming charges.

 

  I understand he had disabled data (and roaming data?). However, it should be noted that disabling data and roaming data does not prevent roaming for calls and messages. In addition, it should also be noted that some phones might consider certain system data differently from user data and continue to allow the former usage despite data and roaming data settings disabled. For example, while disabling data and roaming data should prevent data usage on foreign networks, some mobile manufacturers (ie Apple) does seem to allow some data usage despite those settings disabled (see here). That's why in order to prevent roaming charges, it is usually recommended to keep Airplane or Flight modes enabled for the duration of trips. Customers could manually enable Wifi when required.

 

  I also understand your son had Airplane mode enabled. However, had he enabled it before or after arriving at his destination? If he only enabled Airplane mode after entering the foreign Country, there could still have been time for his device to connect to the cellular towers, triggering the roaming notification. With Airplane mode enabled, the device should not be able to connect to foreign cellular towers for additional usage.

 

  For completeness sake, though, it should be noted that while using Wifi for regular internet access will not incur Fido Roam charges, there seems to be some misunderstanding regarding Wifi-calling. Some Wifi-calling usage abroad is considered roaming. I'm not sure how people have gotten the impression that Wifi-calling does not use the networks. However, that is not true. While the calls and messages do not transmit via cellular towers, they still use the networks via the internet gateway (see image here). The cellular towers and Wifi are merely alternate means of accessing the networks. Calls and messages would not be able to complete or get sent/received without the networks. As such, using Wifi-calling is technically using Fido services. However, they have allowed certain usage to be free from additional charges. All the messages and calls you receive (from anywhere in the world) will be taken from your plan's voice minutes and messaging limits. As well, all Wifi-calling messages and calls you make to a Canadian phone number while abroad won't incur long-distance or roaming charges (see link above). That said, I don't think roaming Wifi-calling usage would have triggered the roaming notifications to be sent.

 

   If your son does not wish to use Fido Roam, he would need to opt-out of the feature. In doing so, any usage would be on a pay-per-use basis. You can view those rates here.

 

  You should note these forums are community-driven and not intended as a venue for customer services. We would not have access to customers' accounts. If he wished to opt-out of Fido Roam, he would need to contact customer service.

 

Hope this helps 😀

 

Cheers