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FidoStephen
Posts: 878
Registered: ‎02-10-2011

Re: Old format SIM card


Fido_Castro wrote:
Hi Moderator,

I think you are the right person to answer this question, but I need you to clarify a bit of the term 'SIM format'. My understanding of the term is its form factor (physical measurements). The SIM card in question is a mini-SIM, the most commonly used format so far (2FF), of course issued by Fido. I have been using it with my LG Xenon phone with no problem at all, voice call, SMS, 3G data... But as I put it in a 2-year-old factory unlocked, unbranded LG E720 (Optimus Chic) phone, the SIM card does not work and keep crashing the Android OS (error messages popping up every 10 seconds). Other SIM cards do not do that, and as I popped my Fido card back in my usual phone, it works as normal. I was told by some phone salesperson that my Fido SIM is of an outdated 2FF format that physically is different from newer 2FF cards by the total surface area of the metal contacts and the way the contact areas are partitioned. The plastic part of my card is certainly of the same size as other cards, but the golden metal contact part are significantly bigger than other cards. Do I have to pay for replacing an obsolete SIM card for a newer one of the same 2FF format? If you say they are of the same physical dimensions but of different formats, I am really curious of their respective format names as Google cannot give me an answer. Thanks.

Hi Fido_Castro,

 

I can confirm that Judhy was referring to the actual physical size of the SIM card (Mini SIM | Micro SIM | Nano SIM). There would be no difference in the metal contacts between a 2G Mini SIM and a 3G Mini SIM. I am sorry if you were told otherwise.

 

This is the first time that I've heard of a phone losing it's mind when a SIM card is inserted. 

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Fido_Castro
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Re: Old format SIM card

It seems I am running out of words to describe my SIM card in question. Well, numbers don't lie. The SIM card plastic measures 25mmx15mm, metal contacts are grouped into a rectangle shape measuring 13mmx11mm, Most importantly, I am not dysmetric, meaning I am able to judge distances accurately. Pull your own SIM card out and see if you get the same measurements! I was not just told otherwise, my very own eyes can tell the visible difference between the two SIM cards I have in front of me. The phones I tried, one works and the other doesn't, are both 2G and 3G capable, non-LTE phones, and I never said that it was the 2/3G capabilities causing the problem. Still not convinced? There are plenty of discussions outside this forum about the same problem I have. Check out the big photo shown in the xda-developers forum thread 1436968. My "outdated" SIM card has metal area resembles the one in blue in the photo. You are going to say "this is the first time that I've seen a SIM card like this" after seeing the photo.
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FidoStephen
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Registered: ‎02-10-2011

Re: Old format SIM card

Hey Fido_Castro,

 

Sorry if I gave the impression that it was 2G / 3G giving the issue. 

 

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